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Posts: 3 | Registered: February 27, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Boy didn't like this...

Because agents seized computers, "We have a general idea who the recipients were," and Florida authorities plan to notify drug enforcement and other agents across the country to follow the drugs' trail and apprehend those who sell them.

"I guarantee you, anyone who's buying (large quantities) is out there pushing them in the schools," Rojas said.


What do they consider large quantities.
 
Posts: 71 | Registered: June 01, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Why didn't either of these articles mention names of the Pharmacies? I am sure the story is legit, but how is one supposed to know what Pharmacies went down?
 
Posts: 4682 | Registered: November 06, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Was wondering too, Rosie, but after looking at the pics in the articles, with all the graphs, mugshots, high-level officials, etc., looks like LE is going to make a huge PR deal out of this, so I expect we'll be getting more info soon.
And at least this time, the media never even mentioned the "O" word.
 
Posts: 623 | Registered: June 23, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I liked the warning at the end that "buyers violate federal law". I think if this site didn't use a real doctor, and real pharmacist, then perhaps...but I think there isn't a law against an ROP's DOCTOR calling in a script. That's JMHO.
PEACE!
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Posts: 773 | Registered: May 23, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I hope L.E. wipes out the entire supply of Viagra while they are at it, they need to get rid of all these "HARDENED" criminals in Fla. Go git em' Jeb!
Dave
 
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Dave, go to your room! First the "prune" business, now this. You need to be PUNished!
 
Posts: 623 | Registered: June 23, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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How much tax payers money went for this while hurricane damage $$ amounts not only from
Dennis but the one's last year? Selling drugs to school kids?..lol What adult would
do that kind of crime is out of their mind . Its kids that might do it . You know some kids
aren't all as innocent as we'd like to believe. Wouldn't it be something if the
Police chief's Son or Daughter was selling vocodin to
school chums.
Alpha
ps hydrocodone synthetic heroin? I don't think so, maybe oxycodone-
 
Posts: 5631 | Registered: October 28, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I looked into it some more and found out one of the pharmacy's used was Nuria's La Familia Pharmacy
in Miami. I've used that one before! I think it was one that rxgooddeals or one of those
from a while ago used. I definatly remember the name.
 
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PUNISHMENT! hmmmmm. How bout a spanking for starters?...BTW, I AM in my room already, anyway, I will try and be serious, You have to admit, some of this "crack-down" on, "The drug problem" is fairly absurd, and I would rather make
light of it, than to get angry, I guess the intent behind all of this is justifiable, but I think a lot of innocent, well meaning folks are getting the brunt of this terribly mis-guided witchhunt!
Bright Blessings,
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Posts: 6132 | Registered: January 05, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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This does not bother me at all. I do not know if I have used these pharmacies or not, but if I did and someone wants to come knocking at my door, Oh well. I only order from OP's for myself, I do not order from multiple OP's at the same time, and I do not give false information when I do order. I also do not distribute my medication to anyone. I even have records to confirm why I order from OP's (although some are out dated by most record OP's standards which is why I usually order from NROP's). Now to anyone that is placing multiple orders, selling their meds, or giving false information to get medication, those are the people that may have problems with this. Hopefully they leave everyone else alone.
 
Posts: 7393 | Registered: September 18, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Yikes, Wish we had more info, I am week past due to order and guess I shoulda have ordered now. Now, I am about out and need to order and probably will be screwed. Well....maybe not but I am clueless as to what pharm and who this will effect. As far as getting nervous about their threats of follow up, well unless there are big red flags for duplicate multiple orders to the same addy then don't worry.
 
Posts: 586 | Registered: April 09, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I suspect that "large quantities" are more than 60 or 90 a month from the various affiliated sites. These folks were pretty clearly NROPs and if you are using them I dont think they will come after normal customers, except perhaps for testimony against the Rodriques. They WILL go after those who have been buying using 5 different names but all coming from the same IP address, those having orders being sent to the same physical address and different names, etc. As the article quotes, the DEA and LE are after those who are "resellers", not so much people purchasing them for personal use because of chronic pain. That is my oinion anyway. Lets see how this shakes out.

Does anyone know what the websites were that they used? Someone said rxgreatprices, but I thought all of those were out of Texas. Also, I am curous if the mysterous and omnipresent Dr. Miguel M. is the "doctor" on the labels of these scripts. I wonder how far back these go and how many generations of webstes are involved? If you are not reselling them, DON'T! If you are not reselling or giving to others, you probably have nothing to worry about.

However, I have said it once and I will say it again many times - at the end of the day, NROPs are always a BAD, BAD IDEA! This is just ONE of the many reasons why - they are and always have been illegal as hell - they are nothing more than street dealers using the net. I ahve to agree with the article on that point. Unfortunately, many legitimate chronic pain patients have gotten caught up in their insidious methods. This might be a good thing; people like this who prey on the most desperate among us need to be stopped. Of course chronic pain needs to be treated far more effectively in this country so that legitimate chronic pain patients are not trapped in this evil trap.

I am not meaning to judge anyone here, except perhaps the NROPs themselves who are clearly profiteering, either on the chronic pain of legitimate pain patients (many of whom are represented on this Board), or on the desperation of the addicts who can go nowhere else to be supplied for their addicitons, which were more often than not aquired through incompetent prescribing by a physician or by being cut off by a legitimate physician being made to run scared by the DEA and LE.

In short, this case shows quite clearly the holes in a system that only cares about profits, not patients. It is those attitudes that make NROPs necessary, and gives them an environment to thrive in, in the first place. Also in short, this is yet another EXCELLENT reason to avoid NROPs like the plauge.
 
Posts: 171 | Registered: April 21, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Here is a story on the Rodriguez arrests from the Gainesville (Florida) Sun..........

The Gainesville (Florida) Sun

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Florida authorities arrest 10 in massive Internet drug sweep

By DENISE KALETTE
Associated Press Writer
Miami, Florida, United States July 15. 2005 3:15PM EDT

Law enforcement agents arrested 10 people Friday for illegally selling prescription painkillers and other controlled drugs worth more than $10 million on the Internet, in a sweep authorities called the largest state crackdown of its kind.

Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist said those arrested were using licensed pharmacies to get pills, then reselling the drugs on the Internet without prescriptions.

Calling it a "horrific drug operation," Crist said. "Internet pill pushers operate without regard for the law or medical necessity, and certainly without regard to safety. Their primary focus is on making a quick buck."

Crist said the arrests represent "Florida's largest state prosecution of an organization filling orders for Internet drugs."

The accused head of the "pill mill" was Abel Rodriguez, who authorities said filled more than $10 million worth of orders since late 2003, including hydrocodone, a painkiller also known as "synthetic heroin" that can kill if misused.

Law enforcement task force agents seized more than 650,000 pills valued at $1.9 million and said Friday that more than $2.2 million in cash and property were forfeited. The Florida Health Department issued emergency orders halting activity at licensed pharmacies it said was involved in the operation.

Of those arrested, "none was a doctor, nurse or pharmacist," said Jodie Breece, chief assistant prosecutor, emphasizing, "We went after no pharmacists," only the resellers.

Rodriguez and others allegedly used "shell pharmacies" to buy from pharmaceutical wholesalers, filling at least 2,000 orders per week, according to the federal Drug Enforcement Administration.

At Nuria's La Familia Pharmacy in Miami, allegedly used by Rodriguez to supply prescription drugs illegally, the person who answered the phone would not identify himself and said family members were not available for comment. Rodriguez does not have a listed home number, and it was not known whether he has an attorney.

Department of Health authorities were expected to take control of the pharmacy Friday afternoon.

The arrests followed a nine-month investigation known as "Operation Backroom," in which several state and federal agencies cooperated. In all, 22 people have been arrested, including several apprehended earlier this year.

Throughout Florida, regional teams are hunting top drug sellers, said Jerry Metz, chief of Field Services for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. "The idea is to cut the head of the snake, so it will die."

"This happens to be a major racketeering case. Just think, your kid could get these drugs on the Internet," said Amos Rojas Jr., special agent in charge, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Miami Region. "The issue here is the ease with which kids can go online and purchase these highly addictive drugs."

Rojas said he expects further arrests. He pointed out photographs of bagged drugs ready to be shipped, and spilled powder at sites where the pills were bottled. "Everything was cross-contaminated, which is the other danger," he said.

Because agents seized computers, "We have a general idea who the recipients were," and Florida authorities plan to notify drug enforcement and other agents across the country to follow the drugs' trail and apprehend those who sell them.

"I guarantee you, anyone who's buying (large quantities) is out there pushing them in the schools," Rojas said.

An alert from the Department of Justice on the Internet warns that buying prescription drugs from "cyber doctors" without a real prescription or doctor's visit violates federal law and puts consumers at legal risk.


 
Posts: 171 | Registered: April 21, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Here is a much more detailed story at this link.

DEA Announcement and Article on S. Florida Raids
 
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