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FDA: Tylenol, painkiller misuse can be deadly
Friday, January 23, 2004 Posted: 11:06 AM EST (1606 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Over-the-counter painkillers work well for most people, but ignoring the directions and misusing them can result in severe, even lethal, side effects, says a new government campaign aimed at educating patients.
The biggest concern: Taking too much of the popular drug acetaminophen can poison the liver.
Some 100 million people a year take acetaminophen, and serious liver damage is rare, manufacturers insist. But more than 56,000 emergency room visits a year are due to acetaminophen overdoses, and about 100 people a year die after unintentionally taking too much, according to Food and Drug Administration estimates.
Some consumers swallow extra pills in hopes of faster relief. Others unknowingly ingest too much by taking more than one acetaminophen-containing remedy.
Best known by the Tylenol brand, acetaminophen is present in more than 600 products that treat pain, coughs, cold and flu. Most are nonprescription, but there are some prescription ones, such as Vicodin. Often the ingredient is listed only in the label's fine print or, for prescription drugs, with the confusing abbreviation APAP.
In drugstore brochures and public service ads unveiled this week, the FDA will urge consumers to check which products contain acetaminophen and carefully follow dosage instructions.
It's not the only over-the-counter drug getting attention: The FDA's campaign also will warn that certain patients are at increased risk of other side effects from different painkillers -- such as aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen or ketoprofen -- called NSAIDs, or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. Those side effects include stomach bleeding and kidney problems.
"We want them to take these medications seriously and understand the consequences if they don't follow directions," said Ellen Shapiro, who heads the FDA's consumer outreach.
Risk education
But the FDA's new campaign falls short of recommendations of its own scientific advisers, who in 2002 urged that warnings be placed directly on the labels of over-the-counter painkillers to ensure users know these risks.
Nor is it a large campaign. Armed with just $20,000 to develop the materials, the FDA is depending on pharmacy chains to put the brochure in stores and hopes major magazines will run the ads for free. The agency says it couldn't afford to even develop a public service announcement for television.
"I'm a little angry" at the small effort, said Kate Trunk of Fort Myers, Florida, who has urged the FDA for three years to increase acetaminophen warnings after her 23-year-old son died from an unintentional overdose after a wrist injury.
"The responsibility should be, at least in some part, put on manufacturers to inform consumers also," Trunk said.
Tylenol's maker has voluntarily upgraded liver warnings and has begun listing acetaminophen in large type on the box front of multi-ingredient products like Tylenol Cold.
"People need to know what's in their medicines and then use them properly," said Dr. Anthony Temple of McNeil Consumer & Specialty Pharmaceuticals, who wants the FDA to make other manufacturers follow suit. "If they dose properly and use it properly, these are safe and effective medicines."
The FDA says work on warning labels is still under way, with a decision expected later this year.
"Educating people about the risks of not using these products correctly is more important," said Dr. Charles Ganley, the FDA's nonprescription drugs chief.
He points to efforts a few decades ago that successfully taught parents to never give children or teenagers aspirin during a viral illness because of the risk of deadly Reye's syndrome, something drug warning labels alone couldn't accomplish.
In addition to dosage warnings, the FDA's new campaign says:
� The risk of liver damage increases if you have three or more alcoholic drinks while using acetaminophen.
� It's rare for stomach bleeding to occur with NSAIDs using over-the-counter doses for short periods of time. Risk increases, however, for people who are over 60; take prescription blood thinners or steroids; have a history of stomach bleeding or other bleeding disorders; or have three or more alcoholic drinks a day.
� NSAIDs also can cause some reversible kidney problems; most at risk are people over 60, who have pre-existing kidney disease or who take blood pressure medicine known as diuretics.




 
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Are there any symptoms that tell you you are taking too much acetomenophin?
 
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Are there any symptoms that tell you you are taking too much acetomenophin




From everything I ever heard you either have liver failure or you don�t. You definitely know if you do. Remember, the liver is one of the most resilient organs in the human body. Diseased tissue can be cut out and healthy tissue can grow back. It can even grow to the size of a football.

For more information on APAP toxicity follow the link below

emedicine Toxicity APAP
 
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for me throwing up sorry to be so graphic
 
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When I was young (before my headaches were diagnosed as migraines), my mom had always said they were sinus headaches. Throughout the entire time I was in high school and college, I was taking probably 8 ibuprofen/tylenol type otc meds a day and my liver is ok. I finally found a migraine doc who ran a battery of tests (to rule out other things) and finally diagnosed me correctly. I have asked specifically about the liver thing because I was concerned and apparently even that excessive use was not enough to damage it. But, I guess everyone is different.
 
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I have a very good friend who is a doctor. He does not know that I use OP's. Wouldn't want him to know.
He was always popping between 8-10 tylenols a day for his back. One day, he asked me to take blood because he wanted to check out his liver.
I asked why, he said because he was having symptoms of liver and kidney problems.
When I asked about it, he said that when you go to the bathroom, (urinate), if there are lots and lots of bubbles when you pee, it means you are taking too much tylenol.
I do notice that when I take too much hydro/tylenol, I do have the same thing.
It might be a good idea for us to check this out.
I know I will be doing so as soon as I can.
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That's really intersting to know. I guess that's one of those little medical things that you probably don't learn by reading or research, but probably through a doctor's experiences and passing down. Like, for instance, they say redheads are real bleeders, but I don't think there is any research or studies to back that up. Thanks for the info.
 
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I woke up this am in excruiating pain so i took 3 of those damn es and boy did i vomit my guts out! Thank god i should have my regular meds tomorrow.I am now extracting for the rest of the day. Taste like he** but better than dieing from liver malfunction
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Liver failure vs. liver damage: You can bet your life
if you have liver "failure" you will be in the emergency room looking for a liver transplant. But, liver damage is something that happens usually over years, many times silently, unless your doctor is monitoring you with
blood tests.

It's similar to an alcoholic who finds out he has cirrhosis of the liver. The damage done to the liver was pretty much "silent" no signs, (unless he had periodic blood tests done specifically for liver function enzymes). He does not
necessarily have liver failure, but he/she has liver damage. If he or she continues to drink, they might progress to liver failure. The damage is usually done over
several or many years, depending on how much they drank.

While OP's are great for people who cannot get sufficient meds through their regular doc, my opinion is, that at least once a year you should have a panel of blood tests done, like a "mini" physical. It's your body, you either
care for it, or you don't.
 
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I was taking those es's last week, 4 at a time, and they did make me nauseous, but I made sure I had plenty of compazine and tried to eat first, they still make you feel nasty tho, I don't know why they even make them with that much APAP in them, it's disgusting!
 
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