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A friend of mine took a pre-employment drug test, he believes it was the 5 panel test, do you think it will come back positive for hydro. I will be taking the same test soon, applying for the same position, and need hydro for the pain, but do plan to stop soon if i can. any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks guys and gals.
 
Posts: 70 | Registered: December 27, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Re: "Drug test" Having gone through this myself, I would say, NOT TO WORRY! They might ask you for a Docs note stating you are able to perform required tasks while on this medication, this should satisfy any concerns of your potential employer.
Hope this helps!
Dave
 
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depends on how long you have been taking it, i think it leaves your body within 4 days, i don't see why you would have a problem letting them know you have a prescribed bottle, there's your proof...good luck!!
 
Posts: 63 | Registered: January 24, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Category: 5 PANEL DRUG TEST KITS
These 5 Panel Drug Card tests for the following combinations.

(COC) Cocaine,
(AMP) Amphetamines,
(mAMP) Methamphetamines,
(THC) Marijuana,
(OPI) Opiates or

(COC) Cocaine,
(AMP) Amphetamine,
(THC) Marijuana,
(OPI) Opiates and
(BZO) Benaodiazepine or

(COC) Cocaine,
(mAMP) Methamphetamines,
(THC) Marijuana,
(OPI) Opiates, and
(MDMA) Ecstasy


Just depends on what combination they use?
 
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no worries. i have been on this drug for years and test almost monthly or whenever there is an "incident" in my profession, and never been questioned.
the test is for several things...

amphetimines (meth)
opiats (street drugs, herion)
THC (weed)
barbituates ( secenol, phenobarbital)
alcohol ( beer)

the hydro is a synthetic so its chemically different than herion. the 2 are not even close in the test. and, hydro is a water soluable molecule so its constantly flushed from your system. a urine test after 72 hrs in a normal human will never see it and after 72 hours, it'd be damn hard to even find in the blood. thats hydro. meth is similar and so is alcohol. the weed is the bad one for any of the testsince its a fat soluable. it stores its molecules in the body's fats and that last for weeks/ months. guys smoke a little weed and test 4 weeks later and get busted all the time. it depends on how sensitive the test. the typical pre-screen for employment is not that sensitive. the good test are expensive still, so they run the cheap panel and hope to get lucky. its good enough for the insurance company to see that you were tested, and thats good 'nuff.

if you have ANY fears about this, drink lots of water the day before and that will dilute the remaining hydro in your system and you'll be fine. you realy don;t even need to do that since the hydro is a synthetic and its not even looked for in the pre-screening.
 
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Aha! you just clarified something that has been a mystery to me for awhile. The panel they did on me showed-up the Valium, but NOT the Hydro. Was told to get a note for the Valium which was no big deal, but wondered why in the world they never questioned the Hydro...I never stop learning in here.
Tx,
Dave
 
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yeah, when i first started using pain meds daily, i knew this would be a possible issue so i researched it pretty well. and then i ask my doc, who told me not to worry. they used to ask you to write down any meds you were on, but the test have gotten better and they don;t require that anymore. the valium probably showed up since the benzo's are cousin to barbituates.
i've taken a lortab as i walked into the test lab and never heard one word about it.. that don;t mean that all test miss it, just the usual ones.
 
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Does your friend have a prescription?

Trey
 
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Ok Thanks for all the replys, and Trey, yes he does, but of course it is from an online pharmacy, and we all know the story behind that. The grey area of the laws and all, doctor name on bottle, so on and so on, so I guess we will just wait and see. As for me, I plan to start a taper soon so I think I will wait to apply for the job. I have heard from alot of people that when they test for opiates, they are only looking for codiene based opiates and things like morphine, that is why I was wondering. Who knows maybe soon these stupid companys will have something that will eventually tests for vicodin because of all the people who abuse it. Then the people who really need it and still function on it will be screwed. Hope it doesnt come to that, but I know I wouldnt want people working for me, who take prescription pain pills just for the high, and not for pain control. I guess it all has to do with how much money companys are willing to spend on the cost of the tests.
 
Posts: 70 | Registered: December 27, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I have said this so many times. I do know someone who tested positive on a standard test for opiates from hydro. It can show up on a basic test, perhaps it depends on just how much you take daily. This person was taking about 20 a day.
 
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Boomdriver,
does oxycodone show up on the panels?
Trey? What are you thoughts on this one? I am prescribed this by my local doctor, and wonder when I do go job hunting and they do a screen(which in the industry that I am in they will and continue to do throughout)will oxycodone show up?

I had a procedure, and I was prescribed valium, how long does that take to be eliminated from your system?

I am not interested in job hunting for at least a couple of months, but want to know as I don't know if the procedure(radio frequency lesioning)was successful or not. If it was, then I will quit p/k's if not then I will continue to take them.

Thanks for the answers, again I love this board!
 
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K,
as far as i know, the oxy is similar to the hydro, a synthetic that is disimilar to the true opiate molecule that is the object of the search. similar in structure but different in origen, enough to be missed by employment pre-screens unless they use a more sophisticated test which is much more expensive..

that, and the valium and these pain meds are both water soluable, so that means 72 hrs for a normal kidney to filter 100% of the blood stream in a healthy human. 3 days and its gone. drinking excessive amounts of water also dilute the smallest amounts that decrease by 1/2 each day, so the 2nd day, a gallon or 2 of water or juice would probably clean whats left. there has to be a certain concentration to be detectable...so many parts per million... water in large doses dilutes that further.

i have been tested several times in the last year, and about 1 yr ago i was trying oxy and another called avinza. i never heard a word about that. the avinsa would have been the only one to worry about since it is morphine, but i do not recall if i was tested around the week that i was trying that. the dr wanted me to try it, and i did, but it seemed like i was having to take something else for break thru pain anyway, so why take the avinza at all? i guess i could have, but i did'nt want to seem eager for more drugs...if anything i was leary of more. and i did NOT want a bottle that had MORPHINE on the label...for many reasons..
i have taken a lortab en route to the testing place and 1 hour later was filling the cup. never heard a word and i get tested to gain entrance to high security areas every so often and have never been denied. seems like that would be reason to fail a security screen, but its not. its just a medication if you take it under a doctors supervision. we forget that sometimes with all the histeria.

i think the oxy will pass as well as the valium if you wait a couple days for that one. oxy is low on the pre screen radar and the valium goes away in hours....
i always thought it was interesting that the most dangerous street drugs can be washed from someones system in 3 days.. and the most detectable is the most likely to become semi legal at some point, pot. and thats detectable for weeks or months even. there are test that will tell them how much aspirin or sugar you put in your coffee 3 months ago, but thats extremely expensive to test hair, and its very rare. remember, the hair at the ends is what you were doing several months ago.....at the roots is what you did yesterday. ever notice that some people in some "drug cultures" shave their heads?? thats why, to beat the parole officer just in case. it used to be long hair that identified a user, now that they use that as a test, the long hair became low priority to these users compared to their freedom.
you'll never see that test unless you're applying at the NRC or NSA unless the cost comes down and ecomomics says that it won't.

hope this helps you Krash..
 
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Thank you BD...great answers and what I needed to know.

I don't know which panels they use, and whether they go expensive or less expensive.
Its mandated by the government. Perhaps you know the answer to that...
K
 
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dang, i totally forgot about testing for extasy....i'm out of touch! i'm still livin in the 70's ! maybe 80's lol..!
 
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I remember when I was working as a consultant for a company in Nevada. There were about three elderly grandmother types working as secretaries who came up positive for opium. Apparently these secretaries always brought in pastries everyday and of course there were poppyseed muffins. They got a pass on the test.

As far as the Hydro, I heard a few people have passed while using. Of course how could they argue with a prescription bottle with you and your doctors name on it - even from an OP.

- Gekko
 
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