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May 26, 2004, 09:17 PM
imacoplvr
Lortab vs Lorcet
Is the only difference between Lortab and Lorcet the amount of apap? The lortabs I was getting were 10/500 and I just got 10/650. They seem too strong, but I didn't think an extra 150 mg of acet. would make that big of a difference. I'm nauseated. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
I appreciate any help.
Laura
May 26, 2004, 09:23 PM
surfer
I to have gotten nauseated from high apap, never had a problem with 10/500's but I once got 7.5/750's and got tummy sich when I took them, I didnt like them at all, nausea is a side effect from an overdo of apap, cant say for sure that is what's going on with you but in the past that has happened to me as well. I do believe the differences are in the apap. Also different brands of generics and brand names have different inactive ingredients that sometimes effect different people in different ways..
May 26, 2004, 09:27 PM
imacoplvr
Thank you for the quick reply. I guess that is the problem and that sucks because I just got 90 of them! I guess I could cut them in half, I hate to waste them.
May 26, 2004, 09:39 PM
surfer
breaking in half may be of some help to you, but of course you are taking less hydro as well, try eating a little something when you take you meds... Something light anyways, a piece of bread of something of that nature.. might help.. you take care...
June 02, 2004, 05:01 PM
Wolf
Lotab comes with 5, 7.5, or 10 mg of hydrocodone.
A Lortab 10/500 vs a Lorcet 10/650- the only difference is the APAP.
So it depends if you had a lower dose Lortab before.
You state it was 10/500 thus I would infer that the APAP is making the difference.
June 02, 2004, 05:58 PM
<Mrbutterfly>
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I'm nauseated. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?




the others are correct the extra APAP makes all the difference. the loracet 10/650 is my fav although vicodin HP 10/660 is a good combo too. so it looks like you found your threshold.

i had a Dr once who loved loracet but it took me a long time to get over the nausea. try a glass of milk or a maybe a piece of bread with it.

The best thing to do is eat some food with the pills. But I've been taking these things for years and years and years and still occasionally get nauseated from the Lorcet. Lortab never makes me feel this way. I've got a number of friends who feel the same way. Here's the kicker, while the Lorcet is clearly stronger in that you can feel the nausea, etc. I have NOT found it to fight my pain any better than the Lortab. I know that both Lortab and Lorcet fight the pain (for me) better than Norco (10/350), but I don't feel much difference between the 500/750. Knowing what the apap does to your liver any little bit you can cut down is great. I'd recommend TRYING Norco. If it isn't effective for you, like it's not for me, go to the Lortab. I'd personally only use Lorcet as a last resort. I know none of it is GOOD for you, but anyway you can help your body out by cutting back here or there is good.

As for breaking them in half there are two issues. 1 or A) this breaks the time release properties and you get the full dose more quickly. That might help with the pain initially, but it also means it wears off more quickly. Also, since the time release is gone there is actually a possibility that the faster dose will give you more nausea. Just a possibility, I don't know what might happen. 2 or B) the FDA is working to make pills that, when broken in half, fail to work. The oxycodone "scare" has the reactionary feds all up in arms. The issue with oxycodone is that users are breaking them in half, crumbling them, whatever and getting the full twelve hour dose all at one time. To fight this the feds are working on pills that lose their opiate powers when broken. I don't think they're out and about yet, but it's in the news that that's the future.

Good luck.
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The best thing to do is eat some food with the pills. But I've been taking these things for years and years and years and still occasionally get nauseated from the Lorcet. Lortab never makes me feel this way. I've got a number of friends who feel the same way. Here's the kicker, while the Lorcet is clearly stronger in that you can feel the nausea, etc. I have NOT found it to fight my pain any better than the Lortab. I know that both Lortab and Lorcet fight the pain (for me) better than Norco (10/350), but I don't feel much difference between the 500/750. Knowing what the apap does to your liver any little bit you can cut down is great. I'd recommend TRYING Norco. If it isn't effective for you, like it's not for me, go to the Lortab. I'd personally only use Lorcet as a last resort. I know none of it is GOOD for you, but anyway you can help your body out by cutting back here or there is good.

As for breaking them in half there are two issues. 1 or A) this breaks the time release properties and you get the full dose more quickly. That might help with the pain initially, but it also means it wears off more quickly. Also, since the time release is gone there is actually a possibility that the faster dose will give you more nausea. Just a possibility, I don't know what might happen. 2 or B) the FDA is working to make pills that, when broken in half, fail to work. The oxycodone "scare" has the reactionary feds all up in arms. The issue with oxycodone is that users are breaking them in half, crumbling them, whatever and getting the full twelve hour dose all at one time. To fight this the feds are working on pills that lose their opiate powers when broken. I don't think they're out and about yet, but it's in the news that that's the future.

Good luck.




Two things I wanted to address here and please excuse me for nitpicking but I just wanted to post the correct info. Loracet comes with 650mg APAP. ES is 750mg

The other more important thing is I'm not sure if you�re talking strictly about oxycontin but neither hydrocodone nor oxycodone has a time release therefore breaking the tab in half will do nothing to the chemical properties or have any difference on the meds effect on you.

Oxycontin or Mscontin is oxycodone with time release molecules added to the med. It has a protective cover but the coating or pills makeup is not what gives it its time release properties. It�s actually an extra molecule they add to the med that gives it those properties. Think about it your stomach acid is some pretty strong stuff and can eat through most substances. So any kind of coating is digested along with the chemical.

Interestingly enough my nephew was sick and didn�t quite make it to the toilet and vomited on the kitchen floor (poor little guy). To this day their is a noticeable spot on the floor where his stomach acid had eaten through the floors finish. And believe me his father is OC with cleanliness and has tried just about everything to repair this to no avail.

Again sorry for rambling and sorry for picking apart your post.

So, let me get this straight....if you break a pill (say hydrocodone) in half, does that mean it loses it's effectiveness or what? I'm a bit confused on this.
absoultely not. unless you only take half

they make them with a score so you can take half if need be. some Drs are nice enough to prescribe the stronger dose so the patient saves money on the script.


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As for breaking them in half there are two issues. 1 or A) this breaks the time release properties and you get the full dose more quickly. That might help with the pain initially, but it also means it wears off more quickly. Also, since the time release is gone there is actually a possibility that the faster dose will give you more nausea. Just a possibility, I don't know what might happen. 2 or B) the FDA is working to make pills that, when broken in half, fail to work. The oxycodone "scare" has the reactionary feds all up in arms. The issue with oxycodone is that users are breaking them in half, crumbling them, whatever and getting the full twelve hour dose all at one time. To fight this the feds are working on pills that lose their opiate powers when broken. I don't think they're out and about yet, but it's in the news that that's the future.





Hydrocodone is not time released, so this statment does not apply at all to this medication.
So which is more effective in terms of breakthrough relief, Lortab 10/500 or generic Vicodin ES, 7.5/750?

Very confusing.....

And what is Norco, a brand?
It depends on what works for YOU. Some people find relief with the hydro 7.5 because it has more acetaminophen in it, while others find that the hydro 10/500 works. It all depends on your particular body chemistry .
Also, yes, Norco is a particular brand.
Hope i'm not steppin on anyone's toes, just speaking from experience .