I recently tried PAH's lyophilized product (pricey) but found it pretty good. In fact the best I have had so far. Now I am trying the new product "15x" that is very finely ground, looks yellow to goldish, and is supposed to be standardized. I am looking to get it before or during turkey day. If it is in the same mold as the old lyophilized, it will be good. I will let uou know. BTW, 100 gr = $275.00
PB

I just ordered myself some of the 15X myself from PAH, I'll update as well, it should arrive early next week. Last time I ordered the regular or super kratom from them it was very very good. I also got some kava from them and I was doubtfull at 1st, but it worked pretty decent. I like PAH's operation. They seem like a very stand up company and I love browsing there website and looking at all the different herbs they offer. I am curious to try so many of them. Duncen is a very kool cat too.

I am taking a holiday from hydro and so far doing great. Second day here and no WD'S. If anyone wants to try this it really wooorks.

I was shaking like a leaf, hurting and depressed from WD and a friend told me about Kratom, I tried it just knowing it was not going to help and ten minutes later I felt better than I have in a long long time. Taste is awful, but this will get you off the hydro train if you want off. I read about it on the sober and recovering website and they raved about it.

rollingstone I just ordered some 20x from z=electric and I can't wait to try it. I hope its here by the weekend. Also ordered the maylasion, sorry wrong spelling, and heard it was good.

I am on fourth day of no hydro and doing great. This kratom really works for pain and wd's.If anyone wants a hydro break this is the way to go.

Seven days hydro free. I know when these cortisal shots I had in my back wear off I may have to go back to pain meds but right now it feels great to be hydro free.

Good for you mistletoe. Yes, it is good to take a break once in a while if you can. Maybe you can tell us how you take it and how much you find does the trick.
PB

I had alot of help pharmboy. I can't put the name of the forum here but they helped me through the whole thing. They told me how much to take and supported me through it. The third day was the hardest for me. I just woke up and took about 5 0r 6capsules and about 3 hrs later took some more.You can't take it to late in the day because it will keep you up.If you have the commercial you will probably have to take more. I had the malaysian.

Mistle toe when I have used kratom I usually get the Premium or super or super duper, whatever they call it. I cap them in "00" caps which usually hold 1/2 gram. My regimen is taking about 3 caps +/- about every 3 to 6 hours. Now for me, it doesn't do much that I can tell with the pain, but I will usually take a couple of Aleves if I start to hurt. And I may feel a little tired for a few days but nothing that isn't manageable.

I haven't been on it for a while, but I know Yahoo has a kratom forum, but it seems more for people who use the product a lot and purchasing it. I don't recall a lot of personal experiences on how people used it to either get off of, or taking a break from opiod pain medications. But, like I said, it has probably been a good 6 months since I have even signed on there. Glad to hear it works for you though. I think if one isn't using a lot of pain medication a day, it is a good tool. I don't know if it works well for people that are taking large amounts a day. Although I think some here have given testimony about using it in those circumstances also.

GOOD For YOU mistletoe!
Keep us up to date.
PB

Yes, it works even when you are taking LARGE amounts of opiods. I thank God I found Kratom when I did because I couldn't get back to "normal" doing it any other way. Of course, logic will tell you, don't continue to use Kratom in hydro's place. I used it for a month, weened myself off it over a week, and holy crap, I feel good. A bit tired sometimes, but NOTHING like the Hell I went through doing CT a few years back.

Yes, it works even when you are taking LARGE amounts of opiods. I thank God I found Kratom when I did because I couldn't get back to "normal" doing it any other way. Of course, logic will tell you, don't continue to use Kratom in hydro's place. I used it for a month, weened myself off it over a week, and holy crap, I feel good. A bit

I thought I had read it does help some people, even taking larger amounts, quit. Good for you kirk. Thanks for letting us know.
PB

I'm on day eleven and I feel fantastic. I never thought I could do this but so glad I did. I have been taking my neurontin for nerve pain also and just ordered me a tens unit. Going to stop PT because i'm sick of dragging myself there three times a week. Pharmboy you should try this its great. I have been wanting to get off of hydro for awhile.

...this is really great..thanks for the heads up....jufu