Best way to describe my experience is for you to go to web (you know)(in the substance abuse forum/board) ,and look for a topic started around jan1st saying "Im detoxin from methadone at home and need tips" Its a rather long post but will offer great insight to what you guys need to consider when your frinds tell ya "go get on methadone to get off the pills)(like mine did)..................Im in day 20 and my situation is kind've unique,,,,Broke,,,had 2 lose job because NOWAY your gnna work through a methadone detox,and Many other contributing factors ...My best advice for any of you(except chronic pain patients willing to accept the life long addiction)Is to never EVER EVER get on methadone,,you read my whole post you'll understand why..Heroin narcos percs,lorcets and even oxy's are "short acting opiates" methadone isn't its a long acting ,,and the withdrawls are MUCH worse than any of you are facing now...Ive been in your shoes ,,and hurting for 10 days is about to what expect form any short acting opiate(hurting being an understament)...Ive came off several drugs before ,,none have hurt me sooo bad for soo long in my entire life....Its day 20 and i'd rate myself about 53 percent ....just food for thought for those considering methadone as an option,,,,That and methadone overdose deaths rose 3000 percent year last year,,,and a 300 percent the year b4.............My question for the mods,,,if they do decide to read my extremly long post..Is how long Will I Slide? yesterday was 1st day i could do anything? anyadvice the "other"mod didnt mention would be appreciated,as im still battling,,,ty and God bless

oh and p.s since my disagreement with the "other"mod ive came to the conslusion he was right about the thc use in my life,,,It didnt change my views about it medicianlly,but I have effictivly stopped using everything...(but a mass array of herbs teas and supplements)......Its all about the will,,,and gods will be done......i sincerely hope i can detour 1 of you from getting off 1 opiate to another(rather it be suboxone,,benprophrine msp????) ,your only putting off the inevitable and in, my own personal experience,,,the longer your on,,the harder it is coming off...My own personal journey is far from over,,,but i am at least OMW back now,,,any insight comments or thoughts or questions welcomed...........1 question for you mods,,,,coming off this thc and methadone,,my lungs are SO congested im coughing up stuff i havnt seen since i was a cig smoker 8 years ago,,and my whole face almost stays congested either 1 side or the other...My question is is it SAFE for me to take mucinex ,on top of all the other herbs im taking???Is it there any possabilities i could drown in my own phlemn?Just some concers that have arisen me,,,everyone says TAke mucinex,,but im so congested Im scared too....ty and God Bless some1 who cares

"Someone"
Please see your PM~
David

Someone that cares- i have tons of mucus and mussinex is wonderful. Don't be afraid. there are no side effects and it really works for me. talk to your dr. or pharmacist. they recommended it to me. blessed be!

I apologize for all the grammar and punctuation errors,,i figure we're all adults and can just deal with my typo's ,,I also dont want to sound negative in anyone in need. Just calling like i see it on methadone,and to be honest ,i wishd someone would've took the time to be honest with me 5 years ago when i was coming off (oxy's and cets)..I'd been long since better,and 25k better off. anyways i realize its Alot to ask anyone to read somthing elsewhere(even though u can read as a guest there). So for all you input,and help i commend you.....LIL u especially about the mucinex...1 thing that has helped me the most with the intense wd's freezing sweating is the hot (really long ) baths....And with the weebie jeebies or creepy crawlies the chamomile and sleepy time teas (made strong) mixture seem to ease those somewhat...anyways if nothing else I hope i offer insight and inspiration.....ty

SOMEONE, i am so glad i could help! keep it up. you are doing great!
blessed be!

ps: who cares about typos? not me!(lol)

Someone, I have to echo what Lil Gal said, anyone that can't deal with typo's have other serious issues. We can figure out what is being said and I have to say you are open and honest and doing a great job of getting your 'ka-ka' together. It takes time but you are determined, you are strong and you have made up your mind to do it. GREAT!!

Keep posting, we want to hear from you and cheer you on.

ADR

every day i try and get a tad better,,a;though i must admitt i have these raging blind mood swings outve nowhere,,which usually ends up with my wife and daughter crying...Harsh words,,no physicality ,,im not like that...point is seems like my emotion/(and everything else is magnified 10 times fold)my wife keeps saying take this st johns wart...but im taking so much vitamins and herbs already my stomach stays tore up even still more times often...im just ready to turn on the majic button and feel normal,,,so is my family...but as im figuring out already it doesnt work like that(((((((((and i owe it all to the scum bucket that did this 2 me,,,,,,MYSELF....anyways slowly but surely im still fighting! man ty everyone i feel so bad now 4 go0ing mental on my family,,,they've been so strong for me.

well if im going to be 100 percent honest i shouldve said " im off everything but a wide range of teas and herbs,,and 1 peach zanax at night...Only 1 at bedtime ,as i never even liked benzo's ,,but now im concerned about the potential for abuse even taking 1 a night......either way i have to sleep to get better,,this much i have figured out,,,,ty again for any and all support.

I know it's hard but try and remember that you don't have to talk, just explain that you need some space right now. No sense in making others suffer from things they can't understand. I've had to just bite my tongue several times and just walk away. All I say is that I can't handle this right now, please just leave me alone for awhile.

Things will get better. I know it doesn't seem like that right now but take it one day, one hour at a time. Sleep is your friend if you can find it. It didn't take overnight to get where you are but it won't take as long to undo. Just hang in there as best you can.

Peace to you.

well smart a$$ you hit it on the nail,,this didnt all happen overnight..i got 5 hours sleep last night..and it felt good...have had the 1st solid pooh this morning since my journey (HUMMMMMMMMMM i know u love hearing that)began..I'm hoping its not the immodium ,,im hoping thats a good sign....I came clean with ALL my family last night,,I had to tell them the truth,ive lied for way to long .,,to way to many ,that love me,,some where online buying tickets to come visit as i explained(outve concern_)i managed to talk them outtve it.I hope i can save 1 of "our" teenagers the pain and sorrow ive caused myself,(or anyone) than maybe this long trip hasnt been for nod. I sincerely appreciate all your help people,and i will beat this crap,,,right now i'd say im Close to or near 60 percent....in my own best assesssment..just my hypothesis. I will be advocating against the WIDEspread methadone use here where im at,as soon as this is all over...Thay have people hooked and i truly believe (the 1 i was at) ,,there moral and ethical values are subpar,to put it nicely...Somehow I think this might be my calling in life,,to share my experience with as many as possible....anyways im rambling the mucinex helps me a tad,,but very little is coming out...I think its because ive been SOOO congested for so many years,,thats prolly gnna take time as well.Im thinking about trying that 2 pills a day instead of 1 12 hour extended release..watcha thinnk guys and gals? Pray for me ,,ive called on jesus' help all the way through this,psalms 91,,when a 1000 have fell ,,he was bymyside...im still an emotional basketcase...And as soon as possible im going to see a therapist about all the inner anger i have related to my fathers death....I was on all these drugs for soo long because they masked the pain/and anger i have over his demise...I realize that now,,but thats another battle,thatll be fought asap,in those years i waisted away i couldnt even talk about his passing ,without welling up in tears,and getting so angry i could punch holes through brick walls..Im am getting better about that scenario as well,,,i can talk about it for a while now with people before i get upset,,so i guess im finally learning to accept his last words to me,,,"gods will will be done"....Fact is I gotta "man up" ,because im positive my dad wouldnt want me to have been so bitter(not at him)or angry for so long...i promised him id take care of my mother,and family . I dont really feel like ive upheld my promise...BUT I WILL.................ty for all your time everyone ,ill keep you informed

Some 1, the tone of your post gives me a really good feeling that you are on the right track. If you need the Xanex, you might have a W/D problem at some point, but you have to do what is necessary to get through this phase.

My problem is nerve and muscle that jolts me awake. I have tried Xanex, muscle relaxers, Requip, and a few others my Doc gave me. Two weeks ago I took matters into my own hands and started taking one 800mg Ibu with two Benedryl. I have slept uninterrupted for six hours or more every night since I started this treatment. It might not work, but I figured it was worth sharing. You might think it is too mild, given what you have been ingesting, but I thought, what the heck? You just never know. My husband says I still twitch a little when I drift off but nothing like the jolts of before which shook the bed and woke him up.

Please keep us informed of your journey. I'll be rooting for you.

I use Phenergan...2 25mg tabs at night (suppose to be for naseau)..but it will put you OUT. I too am on Methadone (plus many others)...when I was on a higher dose of methadone (over 60 mg a day) I could not get a decent night sleep...night sweats or just waking every 30 mins...I am terrified of the methadone...like you. My dr. stongly believes in it for some reason...I tapered from 120mg a day down to 20mg at night....I am dreading going off completly...but I have to find a better solution for my pain mgmt. Good luck to you! Try phenergan if you can
Eleven

Some1 I think you know the root of your problem and now seem to be facing it. Anger is a very strong tool that is often used against US. You should probably try and find someone to talk to because that poison needs to be released or it will eat you alive, like it has been. All those negative energies we covet do no one any good, all they do is harm us and the ones we love, otherwise it does serve no purpose. You are right, I'm sure your father wouldn't want you to be bitter and angry, afterall why? What good does it do? Does it give us an excuse? After releasing that poison you will be able to heal. You need to forgive yourself first then forgiving others should be easy. Don't let these negative feelings win.

How's today been? See another day behind you. Today is already the 17th.

ill spare you the entire version,,its on that other site,,in the that other thread..where i figured out the real reason i abused drugs for so long,,to mask the pain over my dads demise.sounds like an easy avenue out,but i know its true..it kept that anger balled up,,and kindve hidden but it was always there..Fact is its still there ,and probablly always will be..I wont go into detail its a really long story like 8k charachters) if you need to read its where ive directed you,,just be sure and click "all boards" upon arrival or you wont see the substance abuse board......Eleven im positive your doc is all 4 it,becuase its a billion dollar industry,,it being the addiction and detox business..I'll spare you my beliefs,,but ill offer you my experiencess,,and my own personal experience,,i'd rather detox off of lorcets or oxy's 3 times,,,rather than 1ce with methadone,,who am i to judge,,i assure you im not,,just hoping to offer insight into a somehwat "Shady" business..i can offer countless points if youd like...just calling it like i see it,,,and like i lived it...Your right i need to seek professional counseling for my inner anger issues,,thats a definite,,but times are tough ,,and that will happen ASAP..I'm just glad i figured out my life before it was 2 late....ANY suggestions about how much mucinex is appropriate?so far ive took 1 12 hour release the past 3 days(regular Mucinex) ,,so far the gualfenisin hasnt produced much of coughing stuff out but my nose looks like pinocchio any suggestions? ty everyone for the support..