Some months ago while I was in the Dr. office I read in a health journal that the supplements Willow Bark and Devils Claw (not the best name)have the same effect as Vioxx with out the dangerous side effects of Vioxx. I just took them both for the first time and I'm feeling pretty good. I've been in a lot of pain these past few weeks and these supplements seem to be really helping. I'll report later with an update on how I feel.